Guest Speaker Jordan Herndon
S01:E10

Guest Speaker Jordan Herndon

Episode description

Guest Speaker Jordan Herndon 11/09/2025

Download transcript (.srt)
0:01

Welcome to the Harvest Chapel PA Podcast.

0:05

We're so glad you joined us.

0:07

Each week you'll hear powerful messages, testimonies and conversations designed to

0:13

help you grow in your faith and encounter Jesus in a fresh way.

0:18

Let's dive in to today's episode.

0:24

I don't wanna take up too much time.

0:26

We're super blessed to have the Herndons with us this morning.

0:31

Blessed to be a part of their life.

0:33

Been friends with Jordan for a decade and we were able to do a lot of things in

0:38

youth ministry together when we were both youth pastors in this region.

0:42

And I just wanna honor you two because these two have done so much for this

0:49

region.

0:50

Whether it's at Providence or Pathway, they have done so much in this region and

0:56

they still continue to pour into this region.

1:00

Jordan felt led to, he was called to the suffering place of Florida, sunny Florida.

1:08

Suffering for the gospel, no.

1:12

But Florida needs Jesus too, amen?

1:15

We'll sow them there, that's okay.

1:17

As long as they come and hang out every once in a while.

1:20

But Anna and I are honored to be on their advisory board for their ministry,

1:23

wholehearted ministry.

1:25

And Jordan is truly making an impact specifically in men's lives.

1:30

How many know that we need to see the Lord move in the lives of men across our nation

1:35

and the world?

1:38

And Cammie has a fantastic dance company, dance studio that's literally changing

1:42

lives as well.

1:43

And God is just breathing on their ministry and honestly on their yes to just

1:49

be surrendered and go where God says to go.

1:52

So would you actually stand and help welcome up Jordan as he comes to preach

1:57

this morning?

2:08

Thank you.

2:09

Thank you so much.

2:12

Man, I love Matt so much.

2:15

Every time I see Matt and talk to Matt, I feel like I got a big hug.

2:18

Anyone know what I'm talking about?

2:21

Man, man, is anyone excited to be in the house of the Lord?

2:28

I'm excited, super honored.

2:31

Pastor Don and Lori, thank you.

2:33

Anytime we're here or doing worship or whatever, just so honored to be able to be

2:37

here and share a microphone, whether that's worship leading or just talking

2:40

about Jesus who I love so much.

2:43

God's doing good things right now all across the world.

2:45

Amen.

2:46

Amen.

2:46

And before I share, I wanna just really briefly give some context for my story and

2:52

my wife's story.

2:53

My girls are in the kid's ministry today but I have a few pictures.

2:57

Do you mind throwing up the dance studio picture of my wife up front?

3:02

I'll give a little bit of context.

3:04

So this is really cool.

3:05

When we moved to Florida, my wife felt called to go into partnership with these

3:09

two girls and start a ministry that is like a regular dance studio without the

3:14

toxic culture.

3:15

And they've seen God, they have almost, I think it's 260 students, something like

3:20

that.

3:21

And their dance shows a few times a year, they see like, we filled, I think,

3:27

a high school for two shows, like over a thousand people a couple times.

3:30

They share the gospel.

3:32

It's amazing.

3:32

Yeah, let's give God some praise.

3:34

So, so cool.

3:38

We are hard.

3:39

We were in missions for, with YWAM for about five or six years.

3:43

We were based in YWAM Kona.

3:45

We would travel a lot of places.

3:47

We felt like when God sent us where we are now, that we will remain missional.

3:51

Not just because we know we're called to the nations, but with everything we do.

3:55

So the dance studio is the same.

3:57

And so they just helped actually plant a dance studio in Nepal.

3:59

We're praying about going to Nepal this next year as a family.

4:03

It's just gonna be cool.

4:04

I would love to take some men, trek some Bibles to the mountains while

4:08

she teaches some dance students and trains leaders.

4:11

That's one thing my wife does, which is amazing.

4:14

Can you throw a picture of the guys on the beach too?

4:18

Here we go.

4:19

Here's my men.

4:20

This is really cool.

4:21

I wanted to, before I speak today, just give you a little context for this

4:24

last season.

4:26

We have a ministry we started on the beach.

4:28

It's based off of our ministry.

4:29

It's like a little section called Wholehearted Men.

4:33

And God spoke to me this last year.

4:36

In October, we had had one full year of workouts.

4:40

We got a flag.

4:41

We started offering workouts on the beach.

4:44

I'm a coach.

4:45

I have a CrossFit Coach certification.

4:47

And the goal being encouragement.

4:49

It's free right in the center of West Palm Beach.

4:52

And if you know anything about West Palm Beach, it's kind of this be your best self

4:57

fitness, kind of high level culture where there's a lot of young people,

5:01

young and old, but a lot of young people who are really going after fitness and

5:04

it's an amazing mission field.

5:06

And we put this flag up on the beach.

5:08

We started hosting workouts and every single workout we would share the gospel.

5:12

And God's been doing incredible things.

5:14

We've had, every single month, we gather once a month, we've had over 30

5:18

to 40 guys most times.

5:20

We actually had one yesterday right before we hopped on a plane.

5:22

We had about 25 men.

5:25

And guys are getting saved, healed.

5:27

And through the last year as well, which I'll share briefly about as I speak,

5:31

God spoke to me upon promises from the past few years to write a book called The

5:35

Wholehearted Man.

5:37

Yeah, come on, give him praise.

5:41

And writing a book is no easy feat, but I felt the Lord say that we need

5:45

activation language for men.

5:48

And yeah.

5:48

And you know, a lot of books out there, I'm not putting them down.

5:52

I've read all of them.

5:53

I love them.

5:54

You name the book, you know, the seven, this, you know, the problems with men and

5:58

this way and that way it's great.

6:00

But I felt like Lord, where's the activation?

6:02

Where's the one, two, three?

6:03

Let's get to the heart.

6:05

Let's get some physical stuff in there.

6:06

The book has an eating plan for those in the room who need to just, you know,

6:10

shape up a little bit.

6:12

And because God is concerned about our mind, our body and our spirit,

6:16

right?

6:16

And so we're holistic people that God has called to do great things.

6:21

And that's the goal of this book.

6:22

So what we do, why I'm sharing is the guys that come to the beach, we put them into

6:27

this program if they want to be in the program.

6:29

We get them saved.

6:30

We do a nine week discipleship course with them through Zoom.

6:33

We test like physical things in the beginning, physical things at the end.

6:37

And they kind of come through nine weeks and just transform.

6:41

And just sharing that for me is so important because the last season of my

6:45

life has really been getting language for men and women, but language for men and

6:50

seeing lives transformed and then men who are healthy stepping into their identity

6:54

and being sent to do great things, right?

6:56

And so many of you might've been men in the room.

6:59

We did a men's conference last year in May and God did incredible things.

7:04

And this morning, I want to share really briefly about the book as I'm sharing,

7:10

but I want to use it in the way that it's made to be used for other men to do the

7:15

same.

7:15

Because this thing is the kind of book you can teach from as a man.

7:18

You can lead a discussion group with it.

7:21

You can take it to the gym and track your goals.

7:24

You can do anything you need to do with it.

7:26

But I want to share this morning from the core of this thing because it's really the

7:31

heart of what we're doing with wholehearted ministries.

7:35

And even this word, like where does wholehearted come from?

7:37

What are you talking about, right?

7:39

And if you want to, you can turn in your Bibles this morning to Numbers chapter 14.

7:49

And as you're turning there, you can also put a little finger in Joshua,

7:54

the story of Joshua we're gonna share.

7:56

It's Joshua chapter 14 as well.

8:02

And I'm gonna pray for us.

8:07

Lord, thank you this morning for your presence, Lord.

8:10

Thank you for Andrew and Leah and the team and what's being cultivated, Lord.

8:14

Thank you for Matt and God, just this whole team, Lord, just bless this place.

8:18

I bless what you're doing.

8:19

And God, I thank you that this morning, you have fresh bread for us.

8:23

Lord, you have something to say.

8:24

Lord, I thank you for the rainbow that Matt mentioned, Lord, and the word that

8:29

you put in my heart, which is about promise.

8:32

Lord, you've called us.

8:34

You've sent us, Lord, and you've given us a promise.

8:36

And Lord, this morning, I thank you that your promise over us has not failed.

8:42

Lord, in the things you've spoken, you are faithful to see completed.

8:45

And Lord, I thank you that this morning, you wanna refresh some and inform others

8:50

into the refreshing joy that it is to live for you with all of our heart.

8:56

Lord, I pray you bless us and that you would use my weak words and match them

9:01

with your power.

9:02

In Jesus' name.

9:04

Amen.

9:05

Amen.

9:06

Yeah, thanks, buddy.

9:09

That's a sweet ringtone, I like that.

9:12

Hey, so really quick, I wanted to honor Andrea and Leah as well.

9:17

We actually live in the city that Leah, I think, grew up in, which is so cool.

9:21

And every time we come up here, she's never here, she's always down there

9:25

doing something and we're always here.

9:26

So I was like, hey, they're in the same place at the same time.

9:30

But they're amazing.

9:31

But the story of Joshua and Caleb, has anyone ever heard about it?

9:35

Raise your hand if you've heard about it.

9:37

All right, come on.

9:39

Let's just recap it a little bit.

9:42

So you've got the people of God, they've just come out of slavery,

9:45

right?

9:45

And there's this promise that the Lord gives to Moses.

9:51

And I think in life, I like to put myself right in this story with Moses.

9:56

So many of us are given a promise.

9:59

We've been called somewhere, we've been sent somewhere and God says, hey,

10:03

this is what I'm gonna do and I'm sending you and I've given you a plan.

10:07

So they go through this process, right?

10:09

They're in the wilderness.

10:10

But what happens?

10:11

They send a group of 12 men into the promised land, right?

10:16

To test it out, to see what's going on, right?

10:18

And two of the men that were in this group of 12, their names were Joshua and anyone

10:25

know?

10:26

Caleb, right?

10:27

Love the names, Joshua and Caleb.

10:28

If there's a Joshua and Caleb here this morning, I love your name.

10:31

But here's what happened, right?

10:34

Joshua and Caleb, with the group of 12, they go into the land and the Bible says

10:39

that they're the only ones that came back with a different spirit than the other 10,

10:45

right?

10:46

And I wanna just kind of take us there in the story.

10:49

Moses is a little discouraged because the other 10 kinda come back in unbelief and

10:55

he sends Joshua and Caleb in and in verse 20 through 24, we see Moses broken.

11:01

He's broken before the Lord and he's crying out to God for mercy because there

11:06

wasn't faith for the promise.

11:07

But Joshua and Caleb, they had faith for the promise, right?

11:11

And he wouldn't allow that to continue but he said this, that he set apart Joshua and

11:18

Caleb right here in verse 14, 24.

11:22

Because Caleb had a different spirit and he followed me wholeheartedly,

11:27

I will bring him into the land in which he went to and his descendants will inherit

11:31

it forever.

11:33

I'm reading from the NIV.

11:36

But did you know that there is a different spirit that you're called to carry in this

11:43

life, right?

11:44

And I think about our life, I think about culture, I think about what's taking place

11:48

and I put myself even back in that story because yeah, we're in a different time

11:53

but these two men lived a different way, right?

11:58

And it's not this judgmental way, this different way where we're looking

12:01

down on other people who don't know the Lord or something like that but it's this

12:05

faith, it's this promise, it's this ability to say Lord, I have given you

12:09

everything, right?

12:11

It's this surrender.

12:12

And I love Caleb and now we can go to that Joshua 14 scripture.

12:16

We're gonna go to Joshua 14, seven through 12 because Caleb remained true to the

12:22

covenant of the Lord and the promise of the Lord.

12:26

I'm gonna read Joshua seven through 12.

12:31

Now this is 45 years later, I love this.

12:35

It says this, I was 45 years old when Moses, the servant of the Lord,

12:39

sent me to Kedesh Barnea to explore the land and I brought him back a good report

12:44

according to my convictions.

12:46

But my fellow Israelites who went up with me, their hearts melted in fear.

12:51

I, however, remained faithful to the Lord wholeheartedly.

12:55

So on that day, Moses swore to me, the land on which your feet have walked

12:59

will be your inheritance and that of your children's forever because you followed

13:04

the Lord, my God, wholeheartedly.

13:07

Now then, just as the Lord has promised, he has kept me alive 45 years since the

13:12

time he said this to Moses while Israel moved about the wilderness.

13:15

So here I am, woo, come on somebody.

13:18

Here I am, 85 years old.

13:21

Come on, any 85 year olds here today?

13:24

Anybody?

13:25

Okay, 85 years old.

13:27

If you are, that's amazing because the promises of God are just as true to you

13:30

and just as good to you as any other age in the house.

13:34

Here I am, I'm 85, still just as strong today as I was then, just as vigorous to

13:40

take the hill country that the Lord promised me on that day.

13:44

You yourself heard that the Antichites were there and the cities were large and

13:48

fortified, but the Lord helping me, I will drive them out just as he said.

13:54

That's a powerful verse.

13:56

I think it, even in my heart as I read it, I'm like, oh, something comes alive in me

14:01

to wanna give my all to the Lord, amen?

14:05

Have you ever been given a promise by God?

14:08

Raise your hand.

14:10

Right, as you can see, I'm a little interactive, so hopefully that's okay.

14:14

But man, I live in this way where I have to see, I'm a vision person and I have to

14:20

see what God's doing and sometimes when you don't see it, it's okay because he

14:23

uses it in your life and it's so good and then you lean into him and his love.

14:27

But I love this passage because you've got a man who has 45 years since a promise,

14:34

remained faithful to that promise, right?

14:38

And in culture, I think today, all across the world, whether in the

14:42

church or outside of the church, we don't know how to finish well.

14:46

We don't know how to finish well and one of the reasons I love Matt is I've watched

14:49

him over the years.

14:50

I'm gonna honor him for a second.

14:51

I've watched him over the years honor a mother and a father in a ministry and

14:56

watch them help them finish well their season and this season and that season and

15:00

move into this season and himself, he just loves people, right?

15:05

And there's this life that we have to live where we see what God's doing,

15:11

we're able to embrace it wholeheartedly, give our yes and then move into what God's

15:16

doing in the next season but say, hey Lord, I trust you no matter what I see

15:19

or how I see it coming to pass.

15:21

And I just wanna proclaim today, that rainbow was for every single one of

15:25

you.

15:26

As you came in, whether you saw it or not, there is a promise I believe over every

15:32

single one of you today that maybe you've dropped, maybe you don't even remember it

15:36

but God's gonna begin to speak it to you even as I'm sharing this morning and he's

15:40

gonna light it on fire again and he's gonna bring faith into your heart again to

15:44

believe for the things that he has said.

15:47

Amen?

15:49

Amen.

15:50

All right, how do we figure, how do we get past this?

15:53

Man, let's talk about being wholehearted.

15:56

You see, I think that we live in an age that demands for wholehearted people but

16:02

we've got half-hearted people.

16:04

And I wanna share this morning, you know, sometimes I talk fast and

16:08

sometimes I get you interactive but I hope you can stay with me because I am just so

16:14

passionate about people waking up to the reality of what God is saying over their

16:18

life and what he's asking them to do.

16:21

And I speak to men a lot but this message is not just for men.

16:24

We're gonna go through a little bit of the outline of the book because it pertains to

16:27

all of us.

16:28

But I just believe that we have got an age of men and women who are half-hearted and

16:32

God is calling us to be wholehearted.

16:35

We've got this thing and half-hearted living, it leads to a lukewarm lifestyle,

16:40

right?

16:41

And a lot of times, what I love is that, you know, and we're in a season right now,

16:47

I don't know if you've noticed through the Charlie Kirk situation and other things,

16:50

the body of Christ, men and women are waking up.

16:53

They're waking up.

16:54

We're getting out of tiredness and sleepiness in our faith.

16:57

People are proclaiming the gospel in a way that they never were.

17:01

Really short testimony, the week after Charlie Kirk got shot, we had a workout

17:05

planned and I was on the beach and we always have a few guys that have never

17:09

heard of church or you know anything, they're cussing and getting mad at,

17:13

you know, guys on the sand as we're working out but we all leave encouraged,

17:16

right?

17:16

And they hear the gospel but we're out there and one of the guys, you know,

17:20

just shares that he doesn't really agree with some of the views of people who are

17:24

in favor of Charlie Kirk and this whole thing and we don't need to get into that

17:26

but I began to share the gospel.

17:28

I began to share the gospel.

17:30

One of my buddies began to talk about the love of God and the promises of God and I

17:33

watched this guy just melt and I watched his heart get so tender before the Lord

17:38

because he was giving me all the right answers that he grew up in church and all

17:42

these things and I began to say, but how's your heart doing?

17:45

Are you living wholehearted?

17:46

Do you feel completely passionate about what you're doing?

17:49

Do you know that you're in the lane that God has called you to run in?

17:52

And he just began to melt and this is the time, guys.

17:56

This is the time.

17:57

We've heard stories and words about times like this.

18:00

God is moving in ways right now that we have not seen before.

18:04

And some of us need to get our hopes up, yeah.

18:08

This is the time at the grocery store to be saying, hey, do you know Jesus?

18:13

Do you know that Jesus loves you?

18:15

You know, you're out working in the field or you're at work, I don't know,

18:18

this is the time.

18:20

And I wanna talk about this because what begins to happen when we don't live this

18:24

way in a season like this is with our mouth, we stop proclaiming the goodness of

18:29

God.

18:29

We stop really saying, Lord, I believe in what you've said.

18:32

I love trusting the Lord.

18:33

We stop all of it and we get into this thing and the lukewarm lifestyle,

18:37

what it does is it makes us divided.

18:40

And when we live divided, I don't have a chair up here but oftentimes I do this in

18:44

men's events because as a man, it looks really silly but when you live

18:48

divided, it looks a little bit like this, right?

18:51

And the thing about being divided is you can always tell someone is between

18:55

something.

18:56

Right, you can always tell and this would be a little bit of the world and this

18:59

would be a little bit of the kingdom of God and as a man, the closer you go down

19:03

here, the scarier this gets.

19:05

But the reality is, is that for all of us, we can see when people are living

19:11

half-hearted.

19:12

We can see it.

19:14

And I just believe we're in an hour that demands for it to be called out in love.

19:21

You know, Matthew 12, 25, Jesus talks about how a house internally divided

19:26

cannot stand.

19:28

Right, and so what does that mean?

19:30

If the foundation is off, if there's something going on deep within us that,

19:34

you know, it's some multiple pursuits that we're going after, multiple loves,

19:38

multiple, you know, God and money.

19:42

Our 401K at retirement and the things of God, right?

19:46

We live in this tossed state.

19:48

We live, we wake up, we don't know left from right.

19:52

And I watch so many men, young and old, they live in this tossed place where daily

19:58

they're looking for purpose and fulfillment and joy.

20:02

But in reality, it's, if you get down to the depth of their heart is they haven't

20:06

said fully to the Lord, I give you my yes.

20:09

Fully.

20:12

And I think one of the things God's calling us to in this season is to get off

20:16

the fence.

20:18

Right, we need an undivided church.

20:21

We need men and women who are undivided.

20:25

Revelation 3, 16, you know, the Lord is through John speaking a message to the

20:30

church but I just, you know, he talks about this lukewarm water, right?

20:35

And lukewarm water is, lukewarm water is gross.

20:39

I don't know if you like lukewarm water, maybe some of you do, but I don't,

20:43

right?

20:43

And being on the fence is the same way.

20:45

It's this, it almost, we enter into this passivity.

20:48

We enter into this comfortability and it's easy to push it off on the season of life

20:52

or, you know, the weather.

20:54

But when reality is as deep within us, we need woken up in our heart.

20:59

We need an encounter with the Holy Spirit.

21:02

I wanna encourage us today that the way to wholeheartedness is seeing the level of

21:09

depravity that we're facing in our own heart.

21:12

And what that looks like is being a little uncomfortable with, man, Lord,

21:16

maybe even you this morning, like, Lord, I think there's some places in my

21:20

heart that need woken up.

21:22

I think there's some things in me that need refreshed.

21:24

I think there's some purposes that I need reminded of, some words that you've

21:28

spoken, some things that you've said over me that I've forgotten to be just

21:32

quickened again.

21:35

You know, the Bible, it talks about the heart so much.

21:41

I wanna give us a quick definition.

21:42

Man, what is wholehearted living?

21:44

So I'm talking about half-hearted living.

21:45

What is wholehearted living?

21:46

Wholehearted living is completely, sincerely devoted, determined,

21:51

enthusiastic, being marked in earnest commitment without reserve to a person or

21:57

a thing.

21:59

Living wholehearted for God is where every part of your life, your ambitions,

22:02

it's submitted to God without reserve.

22:04

This is what Jesus modeled to us through his life.

22:09

Mark 12, 30 says it, to love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul,

22:15

with all your mind and all your strength.

22:18

I think a lot of us in this season, I think we need to be asking, even going

22:21

into the holidays, man, what am I loving most?

22:23

What am I valuing most?

22:25

What am I giving myself to most?

22:30

I think a lot of times we, I speak this message a lot, on the beach, but a lot of

22:36

times we even preach this message, and you might have heard this,

22:40

like let's be our best self.

22:43

It's a great message.

22:46

It sounds great, but it over-promises, and sometimes it under-delivers,

22:51

because we in our own strength, we cannot be the best version of anything.

22:56

We need to come to a place of surrender.

22:59

And I've watched so many friends, even those who have done ministry with me

23:04

and my wife, and you know, ministry's tough, but I've watched us go back into

23:09

this, into this back and forth place where we, man, we just, we forget that our heart

23:15

is what it's all about.

23:16

We forget that the condition of what's taking place, our full yes, is what it's

23:21

all about, and we begin to try to, in the ways of the world, become some

23:24

version of something that was only meant to happen through surrender, only meant to

23:29

come from laying it all down at His feet.

23:33

I wanna talk really briefly about the heart.

23:37

You know, the Bible talks about, in Proverbs 4.23, that we're to what?

23:42

Guard our heart above all things, because everything flows from it,

23:47

everything.

23:49

And you know, the condition of our heart, it's really what we're given to,

23:53

translates into every area of our life.

23:56

I wanna read this from the books, I love this.

23:58

I remember studying this and picturing soil.

24:01

The heart is the soil and it's the seedbed for everything that we do and say in this

24:06

life.

24:07

It is out of our heart that our mouth speaks, our body moves, and God is trying

24:12

to constantly get us to remain open and tender and submitted to Him and His

24:17

purposes.

24:18

We need to guard and protect the condition of our heart at all times.

24:24

Did you know that you're made up of body, spirit, and soul?

24:29

And your soul, I'm saying, is the heart.

24:32

And it's your mind, your will, and your emotions.

24:36

And daily, our mind and our will and our emotions need to come into alignment,

24:42

amen, with the word of God, with the promises of God.

24:46

And when they don't, they get submitted to other things.

24:50

And you know, back to what I said about being your best self, I think we have kind

24:54

of promoted this message, even in ministry today, of you're naturally a good person

25:00

and you're gonna push yourself to good things.

25:02

But the Bible is actually clear that outside of the grace of God and surrender,

25:07

even in Jeremiah, there's a passage.

25:09

We in our own strength and our heart without Jesus, it's actually not

25:15

inherently good.

25:16

We need Him.

25:18

We need Him and it's a counter-cultural thing to say.

25:21

But I believe, guys, that we're in a season for every person right now where

25:26

people need to hear once again that, hey, unless you're submitted to the things

25:30

of God, you will not be ruling and reigning with God.

25:35

And I just know for me, I'm just set ablaze in this season.

25:40

My wife and I, in the past two years, we've gone through a lot of things.

25:44

We've seen a lot of ministry leaders go through hard things.

25:47

We've seen a lot of friends in ministry give up on God.

25:50

We've seen people who we love and trust turn their back from God, turn their back

25:54

from us.

25:55

We've been through it.

25:56

And one thing the Lord just keeps reminding me again and again and again,

25:59

and I don't know where you find yourself today, but it's that if my heart will stay

26:05

submitted and tender to His plan and His purpose and His word and His promise,

26:10

despite what I might feel, He will be faithful.

26:15

Amen?

26:18

Any promises today that God is lighting you up with as I'm sharing?

26:22

Come on.

26:25

I think God is calling us this morning to a fresh surrender.

26:33

I have a, yeah, I have a real deep desire to see men and women step into this

26:40

wholeness, right?

26:41

And I wanna throw the outline up on the screen real quick.

26:44

You can put that up there.

26:47

So this is actually, and this isn't a plug for my book, but I would love to meet you

26:51

at the table after if you do wanna get a book.

26:54

Matt and I are praying into doing a men's event.

26:57

It's gonna be awesome.

26:59

In the spring, we'd love to have many of you there, but we're gonna go through what

27:05

I'm teaching about today, but we're gonna go through this.

27:07

And I know this looks a little wild.

27:08

I'm gonna give some context for it, but you can't understand this until you

27:12

have heard the story of Joshua and Caleb.

27:15

And so try to track with me if you can.

27:18

This mountain, every single one of us have been invited to a mountain with the Lord.

27:25

Every day, there is this place, right?

27:27

Clean hands, pure heart.

27:30

Lord, I need to see you.

27:31

I want to see you high and lifted up, right?

27:34

That is the call.

27:35

Every man, every woman, you have been called.

27:38

There's a place of intimacy at the top with the Lord.

27:41

And the more you become like him, the more you love him, okay?

27:45

And if you can see this, if you can, I'm sorry, I'm gonna describe it to you.

27:48

The bottom in the left corner, it's the burden, the call, the story of

27:52

Joshua and Caleb, characteristics of being wholehearted.

27:55

That is a little bit of what I've begun to share with you this morning.

27:58

It's this idea of lordship that we start, every single one of us, whether you're a

28:03

man or a woman, you start at this place where God's gotta get you off the fence,

28:07

he's gotta call you out of comfortability, he's gotta set you ablaze with his love,

28:11

and he's gotta say, hey, I wanna take you on a journey.

28:14

I don't want you to be in church to be in church.

28:16

I wanna take your heart on a journey, right?

28:19

How many know you can be in church, but that doesn't make you a Christian?

28:22

I can be in my garage, but that does not make me a car, okay?

28:27

So God's got this plan for every one of us.

28:29

And what begins to happen is when we see this as this journey, then the four

28:33

locations up to that flag at the top, which I'm calling a place of wholehearted

28:37

living, which isn't a place you arrive to, it's a journey that you get to and you

28:40

realize that sometimes when you get there, you gotta keep going back up and down the

28:44

mountain with the Lord, okay?

28:45

Because we never arrive, every single one of us, no matter the promise over your

28:49

life, no matter the ministry call or the experience you have, I say this humbly,

28:53

we never arrive.

28:54

We never do.

28:56

So what we do is we've named these four locations.

29:00

And I'm gonna say them like this this morning, even though it says manhood,

29:02

sonship, brotherhood, and fatherhood.

29:04

I'm gonna say manhood is the first one, or womanhood, for all the women,

29:09

sonship or daughtership, brotherhood is the third, or sisterhood, community,

29:15

and fatherhood is the fourth one, or sisterhood, womanhood, mothering,

29:21

a mother's heart, okay?

29:24

And why we've put these here is because I wanna just really quickly summarize each

29:29

one.

29:30

But I don't know if you've seen this, but we've distorted our understanding of

29:33

what it means to be a man and culture.

29:36

And it's a discussion we could go on for a long time.

29:39

And I'm not interested in getting into it because a lot of it's just very

29:42

controversial, but masculinity at its core is strength in the service of love.

29:50

And so when men begin to not see their gender-specific call to bring strength in

29:55

the service of love, they begin to distort that and use that strength for themself,

30:02

okay?

30:02

And the same can be said of women.

30:04

But I'm just gonna say it with men for a second.

30:07

And what begins to happen is we use the strength and then we get these toxic

30:11

situations.

30:12

And is manhood toxic?

30:14

No, it's beautiful.

30:16

It's amazing.

30:16

That's one reason why we're gathering guys on a beach and I'm trying to get them into

30:19

the nations and track Bibles, because strength and manhood and masculinity,

30:24

we need it, guys, right?

30:26

But when it's distorted and it's not understood, you see, so many of us,

30:29

we don't see Jesus correctly in His masculinity, and so we as men don't know

30:33

how to carry it.

30:35

Jesus knew when to weep, He knew when to flip tables.

30:38

He was a righteous man, but He also was a strong man.

30:41

The Bible called Him a fierce warrior.

30:45

And we've got to see this.

30:46

We've got to see that there's parts of our hearts as men and women that God has put

30:50

inside of us for adventure and for battle and all these things, you know,

30:55

and then it leads into sonship, which you could put the graph back up.

30:57

I'll keep pointing to it.

30:59

Hopefully this isn't bothering anyone.

31:01

Are you guys good?

31:02

Okay.

31:03

Sonship is the second location.

31:06

Manhood, our identity, leads to an understanding and a security in the love

31:11

of God, right?

31:12

The Bible says that we are sons and daughters.

31:17

And so many believers, myself included, we live our whole life trying to do enough

31:21

to become enough for God.

31:25

But God has already given you His love and He's already said, hey, I qualified you,

31:29

I love you.

31:30

And we live this life, you know, John Eldredge says that there's two

31:34

questions that every man is asking.

31:36

It's am I loved and do I have what it takes?

31:40

And the questions he says for women are am I beautiful and am I worthy of pursuit?

31:45

And the Father answers every single one of those questions.

31:49

He answers them through His presence.

31:52

But when men do not get that, they don't get this sonship encounter, they live for

31:57

performance.

31:58

And maybe you know someone like this, maybe you struggle with this.

32:01

This was me for years in ministry.

32:03

I had to do enough and be on enough stages just to feel significant in my home.

32:08

And it breaks God's heart.

32:11

God invited me into a season where He said, hey, what if you just loved me,

32:15

not on a stage?

32:16

What if you love me when you're not leading people?

32:20

I think this is the question for so many of us, whether we're in ministry or not.

32:23

Do you love Him?

32:24

Do you know His love today?

32:28

Brotherhood is the third step.

32:30

We're sisterhood, community, so important, right?

32:34

But a lot of us, we're missing the person right next to us.

32:38

I have a friend, yeah, I have a friend who, he says, oftentimes we're looking for

32:44

the next leader or pastor or person.

32:47

I grew up in ministry, I've seen this, but we're missing that daughter or brother

32:51

right next to us, right?

32:54

Who has God put in your life this week who you're kind of like, they're just not

33:01

perfect enough for me to share my deepest, darkest secrets with?

33:04

And you're like, oh man, but you're really struggling.

33:08

Right?

33:09

A lot of us, we just need to be okay with saying, hey, you know what, I need you in

33:12

my life.

33:14

I need you in my life.

33:16

And then the last location, and I know I'm going fast, but we're going somewhere.

33:20

The last location is this fatherhood piece.

33:23

And I think so many of us today, we don't realize that this is the most

33:28

fatherless generation since war times.

33:33

What does that mean?

33:34

It means that years ago when there was fathers gone, they were fighting.

33:40

They were like the men we're honoring today.

33:42

Thank you for your yes, by the way.

33:45

Today, fathers are disengaged.

33:47

They're not fighting wars.

33:50

They're disengaged.

33:51

They're lost, they're hurting, they're depressed.

33:56

And this isn't a smack on somebody.

33:58

This isn't like, guys, it's okay.

34:00

We've got to see Jesus again.

34:02

Are you getting me?

34:03

But we've bought this idea that we can do life alone, right, we call guys to the

34:08

beach, and a lot of times we'll just be like, hey, remember that you can fail out

34:13

here with a brother.

34:14

And we've got dads of kids, you know, we've got all ages.

34:17

We've got guys over 60 that come, and it's not just the young guns.

34:21

But what begins to happen is that there's this peace and security that these fathers

34:26

start to walk in, and then it makes all the guys around them want to be good

34:30

fathers as well.

34:32

And it just comes from knowing who you are, and knowing who your father is.

34:37

And I think that there is a fresh invitation for many dads this morning to

34:42

the promise that you've been given over your kids, to the promise that you've been

34:46

given over this family, this church family, the promise you've been given over

34:50

your extended family.

34:52

They need you.

34:54

Your kids need you.

34:56

Your wife needs you.

35:00

Life gets busy, I know, it's tough, but your wife needs you.

35:05

Man, I feel that for somebody this morning.

35:08

I grew up in this area, I went to high school here.

35:11

I love this place.

35:12

I bring friends here and they say, I love your roots, it's so wholesome.

35:17

But what happens is this area is known for us just getting comfortable, guys.

35:21

And don't let it not be said of you that the fire and the passion of a life that

35:27

Jesus offers is not burning in your heart.

35:32

Do you see this trajectory that I'm talking about?

35:36

There's this invitation for wholehearted living.

35:41

There's this invitation for saying, man, some of us, we've got promises of

35:44

being a father.

35:46

The Lord's spoken over some of you today, man, you're called to lead, you're called

35:49

to run and minister to young men, or minister to young women.

35:55

But man, maybe we've partnered with a lie.

35:59

Or we've been on the place where, man, you just, you know, my day-to-day,

36:02

maybe you've been hurt in this last season.

36:05

It's okay to be hurt, and it's not easy.

36:10

It's not easy to be hurt.

36:13

One of the things that happens, though, when we're hurt is that we've

36:15

gotta remind ourselves that our heart's gotta get healthy.

36:19

And I just wanna ask you this morning, I know I've said a lot and I talk fast and

36:23

I'm dancing around this stage, but I just wanna ask you, man,

36:27

is your heart healthy?

36:30

When's the last time you really felt his presence in such a profound way that it

36:34

changed how you looked at your kids?

36:37

It changed how you loved your wife.

36:41

You know, one of the things about my wife and I's life is it's not typical,

36:45

right?

36:46

I don't work a nine-to-five, she kinda does with the studio now because God's

36:49

blessing it so much.

36:51

But we live this missional lifestyle and God has told us, man, we need to raise

36:55

support and also do ministry locally and in the nations and what tends to happen is

36:59

if I'm not careful, I begin to let a cultural normality of dads going and

37:06

making tons of money for their families and their moms staying home affect me.

37:10

And I'm just being vulnerable with you for a second and I'm gonna tell you why I'm

37:13

saying this.

37:14

It's because every family's different and no matter if the mom's doing a

37:17

nine-to-five and the dad's not, it's okay.

37:19

God's called all of us differently.

37:21

What begins to happen is culture breeds a message of what success looks like.

37:26

And it's so counter-cultural to the kingdom.

37:30

And what happens is my yes and my love and devotion to the Lord and the missional

37:34

call He's put on our life could get stifled, are you following me?

37:38

If I don't keep my heart tender and pure.

37:42

You know, in the previous generation, ministries and leaders, it was about your

37:46

anointing.

37:47

It was about what you can do, how you can make a room come alive.

37:50

There's the presence of God there.

37:51

Now it's about purity, guys.

37:54

It's about purity.

37:56

It's about the love in your heart for Jesus.

37:59

It's the same in your family.

38:01

So I know I've said a lot.

38:02

I wanna give us one more thought and then we're gonna pray, is that okay?

38:06

All right, why don't you just say to your neighbor, say, this is good.

38:10

All right.

38:16

You know, another picture I didn't put up on the screen, but my wife and I,

38:20

before we moved to Florida, we had this picture God gave us and it's a picture of

38:24

a heart.

38:25

And in the heart, it has sonship, brotherhood and fatherhood.

38:30

And you know, I think other than the call I wanna close with, I just wanna invite

38:34

you this morning to examine your heart.

38:38

You know, man, do I need the love of God to touch me like a son again this morning?

38:44

Or do I need a brother in my life?

38:46

Can we get a, who's the keys guy?

38:49

Hey brother, you might hop in on the keys.

38:51

Thank you brother.

38:52

It's time to shine.

38:53

Come on baby.

38:54

Come on brother.

38:56

But I wanna say with me, this picture of this journey, man, do I need just a fresh

39:02

touch from Abba?

39:04

Like, Lord, you love me.

39:08

Come on, just stay there for a minute.

39:09

Maybe that's you.

39:11

Man, I need to hear again that I'm loved.

39:15

Son, daughter.

39:17

Man, maybe this morning for you, it's I need a brother or a sister in my

39:20

life.

39:20

I've gotten distant.

39:21

I've put myself on an island.

39:24

You know, I don't know what it is for you, but I know for me, it takes intentionality

39:28

to do that, to put people in my life.

39:32

And maybe this morning God's called you to father in a way that, man, it's not that

39:38

you're messing up or something, but you've just got a little discouraged.

39:42

I don't know where you are, maybe to mother, not just to the men.

39:48

But I just feel God saying this morning, my promises over you have not failed.

39:53

My yes towards you is the same as it was however many years ago, right?

40:00

45 years go on for Joshua.

40:03

Man, do you know somebody that can hear something from God and 45 years later be

40:11

fully, what does the scripture say?

40:12

He was just as vigorous to take the mountain, to take the land.

40:19

Oh, Jesus.

40:21

What is the land God's promised you today?

40:25

I know for me there's things God has promised me, but it takes me getting

40:30

serious about it.

40:33

And oftentimes, you know, God allows things to happen to get us up off the

40:37

bench, not to get us frustrated, but he allows it to happen to say,

40:41

hey, it's time to go.

40:43

It's time.

40:45

Don't get, don't let the pain hold you back anymore.

40:49

It's time.

40:51

Let's close our eyes.

41:01

Jesus, I just ask for your presence, Lord.

41:10

Lord, I thank you for this region and Lord, all of the ministries in this

41:15

region, Lord, but I thank you this morning for Harvest Chapel.

41:20

God, I thank you for every man and woman here today.

41:23

Lord, I ask from heaven that you would come, Lord, minister to your sons and

41:28

daughters, just in these moments.

41:31

Lord, before Christmas comes and Thanksgiving comes, Lord, remind us of the

41:36

fence.

41:37

Lord, remind us where we're at.

41:39

Lord, what step this morning are you calling us to?

41:45

Lord, to go fully in.

41:49

Or Lord, do some of us need ministered to by your spirit?

41:53

Lord, I thank you that every man has what it takes.

41:57

Lord, there's love in your heart for every man and woman.

42:03

Lord, I pray this morning for significance within your love, Lord, to touch every one

42:10

of us.

42:11

Lord, self-worth from your love and your presence to come and to download into our

42:17

heart today.

42:22

Lord, we wanna live wholehearted.

42:27

Fully given, mind, body, soul.

42:40

Just wanna invite you this morning.

42:44

You know, man, if God's ministering to you, maybe even specifically about the

42:49

fence, it's very hard to take a step of faith.

42:57

But I would love to just invite you just in a moment, if there's an area of your

43:01

life that you know, man, I know God has promised me this.

43:05

His love, as a father, as a brother, there's this thing He said.

43:09

And you've just been a little bit, man, I need a fresh yes.

43:15

I wanna just take a moment, give you an opportunity to come up and just offer your

43:20

heart a fresh surrender to Jesus.

43:25

And I wanna pray, and I actually have a chorus.

43:29

Just keep playing those chords.

43:30

To worship you, I live.

43:35

Let's play one.

43:36

To worship you, I live, I live, to worship you.

43:44

Come on, just a fresh surrender today.

43:49

Oh, to worship you, I live.

43:55

To worship you, I live, I live, to worship you.

44:00

To worship you, I live, to worship you.

44:04

Fresh surrender this morning.

44:07

Come on, just offer your heart, even if you just wanna stand where you're

44:09

at.

44:10

Oh, to worship you, I live.

44:15

To worship you, I live, I live, to worship you.

44:24

Oh, my heart, Lord,

44:31

to worship you, I live.

44:37

To worship you, I live, I live, to worship you.

44:48

Yeah, if you've responded, I wanna pray over you, and then I'd love to come and

44:52

just lay hands on some people.

44:54

My wife and I are gonna be at the table out there.

44:57

Love to talk to you, get you a book.

44:58

But Lord, I just pray, Lord, for your heart, for every single one of us,

45:03

Lord, this morning, especially those that have responded.

45:06

Lord, I thank you for a fresh yes.

45:10

Oh, Lord, we ask you for a fresh yes.

45:13

Lord, we say yes to you, and we ask for that download from heaven of your

45:16

presence, the fire.

45:18

Lord, to be those that take the promise.

45:23

Oh, Lord, raise up wholehearted men and women in this place, or refresh every

45:28

heart here today.

45:30

In Jesus' mighty name.

45:33

Just because God loves you so much.

45:35

I just wanna give one more invitation, because I just feel this drawing in the

45:39

spirit right now.

45:40

God's presence is here, and he's moving.

45:42

He's doing things right now, I promise you.

45:46

Bigger than what we can see with our eyes.

45:48

But if the Lord is tugging on your heart in this moment, I just encourage you to

45:51

come and find a space at the altar.

45:54

If you need to just lay something down at his feet, just make it real.

45:58

Just, God, I surrender this to you.

46:00

Maybe you are having some challenges at work, or maybe you're having some

46:04

challenges at home in your marriage, and just come up prophetically and just

46:08

kneel and just say, God, we just lay this down at your feet.

46:11

We surrender to you.

46:12

We can't do this by ourselves.

46:14

We can't fix this in our own strength.

46:17

There's something beautiful that's happening in this moment.

46:20

I don't want you to miss out on what God is doing.

46:23

This is the safest place.

46:27

The church should be the safest place.

46:29

A place of vulnerability, a place of coming and kneeling at the Lord's feet so

46:35

that he could do ultimately what only he could do.

46:38

So, God, right now in this moment, we just say come and do what only you

46:43

could do.

46:44

God, if there's individuals even watching in their living rooms right now,

46:48

I just invite you to kneel before the Lord right now if the Lord is tugging on your

46:53

heart.

46:55

Just kneel before him right as a family, right in your living room.

46:59

Just take a moment just to say, God, I just fully surrender to you.

47:04

God, I just celebrate what you're doing in this room.

47:06

God, I thank you for your love.

47:07

Jordan touched that.

47:08

He said about some of us may just need to have a fresh understanding of the Father's

47:15

love.

47:17

So if we can, can we just, can we quietly stand as one body right now?

47:23

Because I want to pray over all of us because I believe that all of us in this

47:27

room, all of us watching online, can step into greater levels of

47:32

understanding God's love.

47:35

So I want you just to put your hands out in front of you.

47:37

God, I just thank you for every son.

47:39

God, I thank you for every daughter.

47:42

God, I thank you for every marriage represented in this room.

47:45

God, I thank you for fathers.

47:48

God, I thank you for mothers.

47:51

And God, we just say come and do what only you could do in this place, Lord.

47:56

We just fully empty ourselves and say God, we want all of you.

48:02

We want all of you.

48:04

God, I just release your love in this room right now.

48:10

I believe some of you are feeling something fresh, maybe for the first time

48:15

in a while.

48:18

And sometimes our natural instincts is to have to work for something.

48:21

And I just want you just to receive his love this morning.

48:26

I want you to put it on your lips.

48:28

God, I just, I receive your love into my life.

48:33

I choose not to work for it.

48:36

I choose not to strive for it.

48:40

God, come and do what only you could do.

48:44

Jesus, we love you.

48:46

Just begin to put that on your lips.

48:48

Just, Jesus, I love you.

48:52

I thank you for the promises that you've spoken over my life.

48:56

Maybe we've taken our eyes off of the promise and we put them on other things.

49:03

So God, I just thank you right now that this is a time for just divine alignment.

49:08

I feel really prompted just to say there's room at the altar.

49:12

There's anyone in here that just says, man, there's no, you feel like there's no

49:15

room for you.

49:16

I'm telling you right here, right now, there is room for you at the table.

49:24

There's room for you at the altar.

49:31

So God, we just thank you for what you're doing.

49:34

We say multiply it, Lord.

49:37

Multiply it, God.

49:38

Do what only you could do.

49:43

Do what only you could do, God.

49:50

I know Jordan spoke to all of us this morning, but he definitely has a heart for

49:54

men stepping into their created value.

49:57

So I just wanna pray over the men of the house just for a moment.

50:00

If you're even standing near a man, would you just place your hands on their

50:06

shoulder?

50:06

Because I just believe that God is asking us, not only as a local church,

50:11

but what he's doing in the nations and the world.

50:16

I'm excited for men to step up and become who they're called to be so they can lead.

50:23

So Lord God, we thank you for every man in this room, God.

50:26

We thank you for everyone watching online, God.

50:28

We just say thank you that it's through your strength that we can do all things,

50:34

God.

50:34

But we just come against insecurities, God.

50:37

We thank you for supernatural boldness, God.

50:39

We thank you for zeal, Lord.

50:41

We thank you for passion.

50:44

God, we thank you for sons finding fathers and fathers finding sons.

50:51

And Lord God, we just thank you for moving in our midst, God.

50:55

We bring all of those insecurities to you.

51:00

But first and foremost, God, we thank you that you are our father.

51:04

You are our heavenly father who is perfect, lacking nothing.

51:12

So right now, male and female, we receive your love like never before.

51:19

We thank you that you are our father.

51:21

And God, we just say, would you have your way?

51:25

Could you just say that with me?

51:26

Have your way.

51:28

In Jesus' name, amen.

51:31

Can we just celebrate the Lord together?

51:33

Can we just give him some praise?

51:37

The altars are open.

51:38

It's just what the Lord is doing.

51:39

If you wanna come and just spend some time with the Lord, please do that.

51:44

If you're on our prayer team and you feel led to pray with some of the individuals

51:47

up here that are just surrendering some things to the Lord, that's totally fine.

51:52

But thank you guys so much for being with us.

51:53

Can we bless Jordan and his table out there in the lobby?

51:57

Thank you, Jordan, for being with us.

51:58

Such a beautiful word, timely word.

52:01

But I just encourage you to stop at the table.

52:03

See how you can find out what they're doing.

52:05

See how you can be praying for them.

52:07

Those prayers are so, so powerful.

52:10

So thank you guys so much for being with us.

52:12

If you wanna double dip, we'll be starting our second service at about 10.45.

52:17

Bless you guys.

52:20

Thanks for listening to the Harvest Chapel PA podcast.

52:24

We hope this message encouraged you and drew you closer to Jesus.

52:28

To stay connected, visit us at harvestchapelpa.com or follow us on social

52:34

media at Harvest Chapel PA.

52:36

We can't wait to be with you again next week.